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Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:14 pm

hello experts,

i am currently looking at Sulphurhead type hap options to add to my all male tank.
i have given up looking for Otopharynx lithobates as nobody has ever seen them locally, and importers here are unwilling to import them. :x
currently i have 2 options either getting Aulonocara maylandi or Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks)
which of the above will be good for my setup? :thumb:

currently my setup is a 4x2x2 ft 120 gallon all male tank
stocklist as below:
1 Labidochromis caeruleus - 4.5 inch
1 Pseudotropheus sp. "Acei" (Ngara) - 6inch
1 Aulonocara red rubin - 3.5 inch
1 Aulonocara baenschi - 4 inch
1 Copadichromis borleyi (Kadango) - 4.5 inch
1 Protomelas sp. "Steveni Taiwan" (Taiwan Reef) - 5inch
1 Pundamilia nyererei (Ruti Island) - 2inch
1 Steatocranus casuarius - 3.5inch
1 Tropheus duboisi - (black) 1 inch

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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby lilscoots » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:27 pm

I'd go with the protomelas they hold their own without being too aggressive (IME)
125 Gallon Copadichromis sp. fluorescent, Placidichromis phenocilus, Protomelas spilonotus "mara rock", Tramitichromis sp. intermedius community tank
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby sandandrocks » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:29 pm

For your tank i'd go with the hap sulphur head. As mentioned above they can hold their own compared to a peacock sulphur head.
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby Floridagirl » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:14 am

Male tanks are hit and miss, IMO. Make sure to quarantine fish before you put them in the main tank. And, have meds(such as Metro) on hand for bloat, as fish stress out from new arrivals. I've had better luck introducing smaller fish into existing tanks.
Too many fish to choose from, too few tanks!
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby DanniGirl » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:27 pm

The Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks) would be your best bet for color but it will eventually need a larger tank.
The Aulonocara maylandi seldom produces color in an all male environment. Furthermore, you have some aggressive species in the tank which will intimidate the maylandi.
Another possible option would be an Aulonocara jacobfreibergi Mamela or Hongi Island.

Have you looked into local fish clubs/breeders for an Otopharynx lithobates?
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby 13razorbackfan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:26 am

DanniGirl wrote:The Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks) would be your best bet for color but it will eventually need a larger tank.
The Aulonocara maylandi seldom produces color in an all male environment. Furthermore, you have some aggressive species in the tank which will intimidate the maylandi.
Another possible option would be an Aulonocara jacobfreibergi Mamela or Hongi Island.

Have you looked into local fish clubs/breeders for an Otopharynx lithobates?

I agree.

I have both the maylandi and the sulfurhead mara rocks in my tank. The maylandi is a chicken. When he was first added he did fine but now even hides from my smaller fish. The sulfur head is the 3rd biggest in my tank and kind of does what he wants but my albino peacock bosses him around when he gets close to his spot. Beautiful fish though. I was lucky enough to stumble across one as a baby at a local chain store. I knew it was a protomelas of some sort but wasn't sure until he started to develop the blaze. He is still changing colors as he is maturing.
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:23 am

here in singapore, malawi cichlids are not so popular.
the hobbyists here keep lake tanagyika and SA/CA cichlids etc... :roll:

there is a importer for Otopharynx lithobates i have contact him he seems not willing to import them for some reasons. :-?


DanniGirl wrote:The Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks) would be your best bet for color but it will eventually need a larger tank.
The Aulonocara maylandi seldom produces color in an all male environment. Furthermore, you have some aggressive species in the tank which will intimidate the maylandi.
Another possible option would be an Aulonocara jacobfreibergi Mamela or Hongi Island.

Have you looked into local fish clubs/breeders for an Otopharynx lithobates?
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:24 am

anyone knows the temperament of Otopharynx lithobates?
is it like Aulonocara maylandi or more like Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks)?

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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby DJRansome » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:28 am

More like maylandi, but it has a better chance of coloring up.
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:23 am

thanks DJ

can you share with us your 125G all male tanks?
whats the stock list now?

cheers!
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby DJRansome » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:09 pm

Aulonocara Rubescens
Aulonocara stuartgranti Chiwindi ''Blue Neon''
Aulonocara stuartgranti Cobue (Regal)
Aulonocara stuartgranti Maleri
Aulonocara stuartgranti Mdoka (Flametail)
Aulonocara stuartgranti Usisya
Aulonocara turkis
Copadichromis borleyi Kandango
Copadichromis chrysonotus Mumbo 'White Blaze'
Labidochromis caeruleus (trial)
Labidochromis caeruleus (trial)
Labidochromis caeruleus (trial)
Lethrinops sp. Mbasi (trial)
Mylochromis ericotaenia Manda
Otopharynx tetrastigma
Placidochromis electra Likoma 'Deep Water'
Protomelas marginatus 'Turquoise'
Pundamilia nyererei Igombe Island (trial)
Sciaenochromis fryeri Electric Blue
Xystichromis Flameback Kisumu, Kenya (trial)

Synodontis polli (wild)
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:41 pm

hi DJ

hows your Xystichromis Flameback doing in all male tank? is this flameback or koyga flameback?
did it color up RED?
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby DJRansome » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:43 pm

Flame back. It's still a juvenile and I have not combined all the fish yet...they are still split between two tanks.
125G Aulonocara, Malawi Haps, Vics (trial), S Polli
75G Demasoni, Labs, Cyno hara, Met estherae, S Multipunctata
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Cyp Kerenge, S Petricola
33G Neo omnicaeruleus; 33G Flameback Kisumu; 33G P nyererei Igombe; 33G Hap ruby green
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby johnchor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

hi experts

i just got a Protomelas spilonotus (Mara Rocks) today from a fellow hobbist "Alan" here in singapore.
this is a 5 incher male. the yellow blaze is good but he does not really looked blue color. i would say best light blue with several vertical and a horizontal strip on the body. he looks very closely related to the red empress!
a rare and nice fish though. thanks
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Re: Sulphurhead options?

Postby Michael_M » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:45 am

Protomelas are late bloomers and you can expect his colour to improve as he grows.
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