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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: Leleupi and Demasoni? |
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I have been planning on setting up a 33G (48" x 12" x 13") tank with a dozen demasoni and a half dozen yellow labs.
Now I am wondering whether it would work to have a half dozen leleupi instead of the yellow labs. Would that work? |
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TKC747

Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Location: Queens, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think because male leleupis are aggressive fish, it would depend on how many males you have.
I don't know how demasoni and leleupis would mix otherwise...sounds like a strange mix because one is malawi and the other tanganyikan.
You might be the first one to suggest it thought  |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. Anyone have any other thoughts? |
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Fogelhund Administrator

Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Location: Binbrook, ON, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| They have conflicting territorial needs. It might work, but I highly doubt it. |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Fogelhund. Can you elaborate? |
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walleye
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Jesup Iowa
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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My only issue would be diet. The leloupi is a carnivore. The demasoni is a herbivore. To much meaty foods and high prtien diet will cause bloat in the demasoni. Labs and demasoni work well because they can thrive on a heavy veggie diet. The leloupi and demasoni would look great, but the health of one or the other would probably suffer.
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| I feed both my calvus and my malawi (separate tanks) NLS and it at least appears to have been working well (I've had the calvus a little under a year). Wouldn't NLS would work for lel. and dem. in the same tank? |
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Darkside
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| cholile wrote: | | I feed both my calvus and my malawi (separate tanks) NLS and it at least appears to have been working well (I've had the calvus a little under a year). Wouldn't NLS would work for lel. and dem. in the same tank? |
The only issue I can see is that these fish will be competing for the same rock work. Substrate spawners can be a PITA when they spawn, so that would be my big concern. I'd try it out and see what happens. |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I plan to have two 33G tanks. The other will have 4-6 occies, 4-6 calvus, and a third fish. Would 6 leleupi work?
If so, I can try them with the demasoni and if that does not work then just stick them in the tank with the other tangs. |
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Darkside
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Leleupi usually don't get on with shellies so I wouldn't suggest adding them to the Tang tank. Besides, with all the occies and altos that aquarium will be crowded as is. |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Good to know in terms of leleupi, but why would occies + calvus be crowded? Only 33G, but it's 48" long so lots of territory. |
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Darkside
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought you were talking about adding a third fish and then the leleupi. You'll be fine with the 6 calvus and the occies. If you want a third fish try some of the smaller julies. |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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ahh, got it. yea, i'd other go with julies or, if at all possible, so smaller cyps, but i worry that the latter would crowd the tank, especially b/c it's only 12" long.
in any event, it sounds like i can give it a shot with the demasoni + leleupi, but if it doesn't work, then i won't have anywhere to put them. i want occies and calvus for the other tank, but a third group (ideally with bright color like leleupi) is what i'd like to get in there. |
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24Tropheus

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Location: Sawbridgeworth near London UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Maybe this is what you are looking for for the tang tank?
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=2148
Some J.ornatus are very nicely coloured and well behaved (in comparison to leleupi anyway) but you have to get the right one
But to be honest I am not sure I would add anything, it sounds nice and full as it is.
Again I would be reluctant to mix substrate spawners with the Malawis.
You just can not crowd out their aggression as well as you can with Mbuna I think.
But think you would have better luck with the J ornatus than with leleupi if you are determined to give it a go. _________________ There are no rules governing generic assignments, only opinions. BCA member 207. Try it you might like it. All the best James. |
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cholile
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: MD/DC/VA, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks 24tropheus.
I actually have a a similar juile (regani). There are very few tangs that make the color splash I'm looking for and leleupi fit the bill, but it sounds like putting leleupi with occies in any tank, and certainly any 33G tank, even if it is 48" long, just is not the way to go.
So it'll be 12 demasoni and 6 labs in one tank and then 4 to 6 occies, 4 to 6 calvus, and maybe maybe some third group, though i'd want cyps or leleupi and neither seems advisable. |
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