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Blue Jack Dempsey breeding experiences II
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ormed



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Location: Salt Lake City, UT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: Blue Jack Dempsey breeding experiences II Reply with quote

OK...

I hope we've all learned that the moderater here will lock the thread without warning, so please, PM me if you are interested in the more commercial aspects of Blue Jack Dempseys and not discuss them here.

This thread will be a continuation of the thread.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=108410

That thread contains 11 pages of detailed information and photos... Enough said.


Randy

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This is my #1 breeding male.



Here he is with his mate. Guarding their spawn.

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Yes, they hatched.
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And grew. 1"

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1 1/2"


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ormed



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to % Blues compared to Blue genes (Regular phenotype).

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TheBlues are looped in blue and the BGs in black.

It appears that I DO have 50% Blues from this spawn. I started pulling the BGs out of the tank last night and counting the BGs. As promised, I am counting them and I've taken 100 BGs out so far. There appear to be as many Blues as BGs. I'll keep this updated as I continue separating them.

Randy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's awsome!
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ormed



Joined: 17 Mar 2006
 
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Thanks...

I spent all afternoon counting baby fish...
380 Blue Dempseys
438 Blue Gene Dempseys

So, it looks like My #1 pair IS producing about 50% Blues. This is good news! cause I thought I was getting closer to 25%, which didn't make since gentetically. Maybe the slightly lower % of Blues compared to BGs, is because they aren't quite as vigorus.

Randy
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csriram45



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
 
Location: Milpitas CA

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Great Randy Reply with quote

Apologize if the thread got locked due my not understanding the rules right. Back on track. Awesome job. Someday when I come to SD I would love to stop by to have a look at your set Up.
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Blackadder



Joined: 13 Feb 2004
 
Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, it's a shame one of the best threads on any cichlid website got locked, lets hope the useful info in there doesn't get forgotten.
Great news on the % of blues Ormed, this at least gives us reason to believe we are dealing with normal recessive genetics (as far as the colour is concerned).
Another poster (can't remember the thread) was concerned with eye defects, I have had these occur in some of my blues, it would be interesting to see if any of yours show problems as they develop.
I must say your fry look exactly like the fry I had off Jeff Rapps, they grew up to look different to your breeding male, I wonder what your fry will look like full grown?
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ohcustoms



Joined: 09 Apr 2006
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ormed wrote:
Wow, Thanks...

I spent all afternoon counting baby fish...
380 Blue Dempseys
438 Blue Gene Dempseys

So, it looks like My #1 pair IS producing about 50% Blues. This is good news! cause I thought I was getting closer to 25%, which didn't make since gentetically. Maybe the slightly lower % of Blues compared to BGs, is because they aren't quite as vigorus.

Randy
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darn that's a KILLER EBJD percentage. I'm only gettting around 1/3 so far I need to post some pic's

I love your male, I keep looking for nice males around here, but, it seems like Jack's are not popular at all. I'm hoping to sell some to other stores so I don't get OVER stocked...... Surprised
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Burtle



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look very healthy and top notch condition... and blue! Grin
It's good to see them with bellies bigger than their heads and still look hungry. Laugh Out Loud
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ormed



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

I really put a lot into feeding and water quality, plus I think I got pretty good breeding stock to start with. I'm glad it shows Smile

Randy
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Deezil



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
 
Location: Federal Way, WA, USA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man,

Have you had a chance to look into head shapes with relation to sexing? Cool

Just wonderin... Keep up the good work! Thumb
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ohcustoms



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had the problem with your JD's picking off the blue ones???? It seems to me that my pair will pick out the blue ones for snacks. I'm just curious to see if you have this problem, or, its just my pair?????

Jamie
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Pisces1977



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormed,

Thanks for the fish. Pictures really do not do these fish justice. They arrived today in great condition. Two of the fish have a considerable amount of blue present. Believe these two are the dominant ones. I have had them for only three hours and they are already taking well to my 55 gallon (feeding on broken up tetra cichlid sticks). I will post pics in the coming weeks of my tank setup and their progress.
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Pisces1977



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Toby_H



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pisces1977, that sucks! You have me overly excited... mine are due in first of next week~!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good things come to those who wait. Laugh Out Loud
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